Big Fat Heretic has been banned for a year.

How come you only decided to ban him now? From what I can see he hasn't posted in about a week and his latest arguments appeared to be petering out. Or is this something you did a week back and have only made public now?

I see. Makes sense as he was quite a regular poster. Hopefully a year will be enough to see him rethink his actions and change his conduct. However I am convinced things are going to be VERY quiet during the time without him.

Do you think he will resume posting after a year? I find it hard to say. A year's quite a long time and he may well move on completely in that time as I see he dips his oar in at a fair few places on the web. Plus he may well decide he sees nothing more here.

wtf? say goodbye to your little forum. Fatman was the only interesting member in it. you may as well rename this the Earl Forum for Wayward Boys and Reformed Bullies

Skull I will direct this to you. I have no further use for "the Earl". Is this your idea? Are you really banning the FatMan for a yEAR? WTF? FatMan you are better off without these unforgiving selfcentered "moderators"

Apparently, you think rules were made to be broken. Unfortunately for you, you're wrong. Big Fat Heretic (he's not used Fat Man for a few years now) has broken the rules several times and been banned several times because of it. And this decision was not made immediately. Both me and Earl discussed it privately before doing anything. We could have easily just permanently banned him, but we didn't. Yes, a year is a long time, but he's not been the best member for a long time.

To be honest, I have almost had enough of Big Fat Heretic. I'm sure that everyone reading this is already familiar with his venom-spouting lectures, so I'll spare you the sordid details. If we don't give BFH a deserved punishment, he'll just keep doing it over and over. This forum is for people who don't like sports. And while I don't doubt he hates them, all he has done, like Earl (oh sorry, "the Earl") said is post about politics and religion. And whenever the forum was down or responding slowly, whether it be this one or at Sports Suck, he immediately jumped to the conclusion that the government was trying to "silence us" or that we were being hacked, when the problem was with the forum's server. As someone who knows a lot about computers, he should have known this.

The thing I'm the most tired about is BFH's belief that he is always being misrepresented and/or persecuted. He takes things out of context and twists them around. He also ignores all of the evidence that doesn't support or, in many cases, directly contradicts his position (for example, with Andy, just because he was an athlete).

BFH should stop protesting against his weaknesses and shortcomings. Rather, he should forgive himself for them and seek to strengthen himself. Then, perhaps, he would stop calling evil good and good evil. Comments on this are welcome, but please think them out first.

To him, I'd like to quote the last line of R. M. Rilke's poem, “Archaic Torso of Apollo”: “You must change your life.”

Leyton Wengay wrote:Skull I will direct this to you. I have no further use for "the Earl". Is this your idea? Are you really banning the FatMan for a yEAR?  WTF?  FatMan you are better off without these unforgiving selfcentered "moderators"

Yeah, definitely a troll this guy, ban him

oh boy. ban me at the stake. big deal. BAN the only member who cares for the best and most loyal member we have. go ahead BAN ME. If FM can't be here I don't care.

Looks like many things have happened while I was away.
(And I seriously cannot bring myself to read everything Fatman wrote because, seriously, that is too much text)

I notice you've posted in Ray's forum. I wouldn't bother. He tends to edit posts if he doesn't like them. You may notice some posts in that topic that are rather pretentious and make him look like he's in the right. These are posts that were made by me and edited by Ray to say something completely different.

For example, the post saying this forum is meant to be an improved version of the old one; I actually said this place was meant to be a replacement. But of course, Ray, being the cowardly little boy he is, edited it.

Imperialist, I apologize in advance for the length of this post, which I have directed to you. But it’s necessary because I have some information for you that I urge you to seriously consider.

Earlier this week on Wednesday, June 10, 2015 at 8:55 p.m., you submitted the following post in the topic entitled “pop music sucks” at Ray’s new forum:

In response to what was going on, it was more of a massive misunderstanding when this forum went offline for a while and something that little bystanders like me have no knowledge of happened behind the scenes and the split became a bit more permanent.

At the least that is my understanding of the old/new forum divide. As far as I know, the new forum people don't necessarily wish to forever remain split, just perplexed as to why they can't be back and have more or less given up or something along those lines.

However, I only have the things as claimed by the new forum, and have no source of what admin Ray might say on the matter so I guess it might be a bit biased.  

Please don’t misunderstand.  I respect your right to post in the forum or forums of your choice.  I wouldn’t think less of you if you decided to post exclusively in Ray’s forum.  

In fact, I sympathize with your position.  You were absent when all this trouble started.  You’re concerned that you don’t have all the facts.  Neither do Skul nor I; but that is because when all this trouble started, Ray refused to communicate with either of us, despite repeated attempts by Skul and me to reach him by e-mail and PM.  In case you haven’t already read it, please read the OP I posted on December 28, 2013 in which I have described how all this trouble started:

https://ihatesports.forumotion.com/t139-prequel-to-the-ray-saga-how-it-all-began#693

As you will see if you consider the evidence, Ray has no credibility.  Since the start-up of his new forum, he has edited posts submitted by others for the obvious purpose of deceiving the uninformed reader.  In other words, he has shown himself to be a fabricator.

Skul (posting under different usernames, of course) is not the only one whose posts have been falsified.  Ray did the same to a post that Brigan submitted when he had just revived his forum.  Brigan was a bystander who had not played any role in the events that led to the closing of the old forum (which, I might add, did not take place in one fell swoop, but was done in several stages).  But he was curious as to why the old forum had been shut down.

So, he posted a short post that basically said “Would you please tell us why the forum was shut down.  What did we do to offend you?”  He even addressed Ray as “sir.”  So, Ray responded by deleting everything Brigan said and replacing it with “Please don’t ban me.  I’m gay.”  Then he banned Brigan.  Later he went back and deleted all of this brief exchange.

Please bear with me as I now give a detailed presentation of Ray’s latest cowardly fabrications.

On Wednesday, June 03, 2015 at 5:23 pm, Skul posted the following under the username “The Ray Saga”:

Ray wrote:At least Skul and Earl became dissatisfied with this forum



http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=7945451

"I believe you will find that is entirely a fabrication!

Mr. Ray is lying. The new forum was created because the members thought the old forum was going to expire and was simply supposed to be a replacement.

This would not have happened if Mr. Ray had communicated with my clients, Mr. Skul and Mr. Earl.

However, evidence shows that despite being questioned, he never replied and has repeatedly stopped older members from re-joining."  

Now Ray has altered Skul’s post to read as follows:

Ray wrote:At least Skul and Earl became dissatisfied with this forum


I believe you will find that is entirely a fabrication!

The new forum was created because the members thought the old forum was too firm in it's fight against sports and jocks and was simply supposed to be an improved version.

Notice that Ray has done a poor job of falsifying Skul’s post.  He should have deleted the sentence “I believe you will find that is entirely a fabrication!” because as it now stands, the fabrication contradicts itself.  On the one hand, Skul and I are misrepresented as having become dissatisfied with Ray’s old forum (which charge, incidentally, is a complete lie).  Then Ray has Skul saying that we thought “the old forum was too firm in it’s fight against sports and jocks and was simply supposed to be an improved version.”  Again, more lies.  In fact, we never anticipated the possibility that Ray would eventually revive his forum.  We thought it was gone forever.

Skul later posted again (this time under the username “Poor Old Man”).  Unfortunately, I neglected to copy and paste Skul’s original post to a composition page in a file created for the purpose of saving it for future reference.  I have posted Ray’s falsified version below.  The absurdity of this particular fabrication discredits Ray again.

Poor Old Man wrote:
Ray wrote:what? I'm glad to hear the truth finally. Thanks for posting.


Well, we wouldn't have left this forum to start a new one if you had been a little more flexible and paid more attention to us. Our new forum is a disaster and Earl acts like he created it. Can I be admin here again?



Sorry, Poor Old Man, we already have a capable admin. But good luck with your new forum.

Imperialist, you know perfectly well that Skul would never make such a derisive remark about me; yet Ray has sought to convince the uninformed reader that friction now exists between me and Skul.  That is patently absurd.  Anyone who knows that I have worked closely with Skul will see this falsified post for what it is; namely, just another one of Ray’s many lies.

Finally, Imperialist, just before I submitted this post, I sent you a PM in which I have directed you to concrete proof that Ray has been falsifying the posts of others.  I have not shared this information here because if Ray knew what I know, he would delete the proof to which I now refer.

Ray’s post editing reminds me of the Stalinists who would erase the images of comrades who had been photographed in Stalin’s presence, but had ended up being purged.

Hi all,
I must admit I do miss the "fun" days of the old forum where I took great pleasure in bad mouthing scumbags like Sandaman and others and when Fatman was more in line with the principles of the group, he was quite passionate wasn't he? It saddens me to see the infighting among our members, is it because of the inactivity of the forum causing it to self destruct? How can we make this forum more public to attract the idiot sports fans and intelligent sports haters back? I for one do miss the "saner" Fatman, I hope he reflects upon his posts of the recent past and rejoins us a year from now.